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before we go, some light hearted affair at my expense. nbc's "saturday night live" took on yours truly. apparently my high-profile guests lance armstrong, manti te'o, jodie foster. do i really talk in this absurd way? >> good evening. i'm piers morgan. this week, a series of shocking and confusing revelations. who lied about what, who is still hiding the truth and who, what -- [ speaking gibberish ] who, what, who.
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>> honestly, i don't know what i -- what, woo, what, is. anyway, i'm better looking than that joker. i want to thank my guests, all of you at home, for participating in what was a fascinate look at president obama's big challenges over the next four years. "anderson cooper" starts now. tonight people who think there's a revolving door on this place. a newly re-elected congresswoman who should just be starting her new term. instead she's already leaving and using what she learned here in capital to cash in. we're keeping them honest. michelle obama's inaugural gown this time and last time four years ago, we'll talk live with designer jason wu who goes from eating pizza to seeing his dreams come true. breaking news. students speak about the terror they lived through today at a community college in houston, texas. new video up close of the drama as it unfolded at lone star college. what apparently started as an
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altercation escalated into a horrifying scene all happening in the middle of a national debate on how to stop gun violence. three people hurt, two detained and an awful lot of unanswered questions. ed lavandera is live on the scene. what did you find out about the shooting? >> hello, anderson. the two people involved in this altercation, apparently only one gun involved, were two of the three that were wounded. the third person that was wounded was a maintenance worker here at lone star college who was standing nearby. he was wounded in the leg and is being treated at the hospital tonight. right now we know investigators are interviewing the two suspects and the two men involved in the altercation. so far no criminal charges have been filed and no one has been arrested. so they're still trying to piece together exactly what led to all of this. so far the best accounts that we've gotten from what happened i think comes from one of the students at the school who was about ten feet away and said that they could hear the students arguing or actually only one of the students arguing about something, and then all of a sudden it started escalating.
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according to that one student, she said it seemed like something that could have been resolved but it kept getting worse. i mentioned only one student, authorities say only one of the two suspects had a student i.d., so it's not clear where that second person came from, if they should have been on the campus to begin with. >> we're seeing this video for the first time as our viewers are seeing it, this is brand new video to us. i saw reports that it might have been gang related. the sheriff was asked about this. what do you know? >> well, we've been asking around about that as well. the sheriff was asked -- or the acting sheriff was asked this afternoon at a press conference and didn't have any information or refused to give any information on that, so we'll continue to look into that as best we can. >> in today's press conference, the chancellor of the school said the staff had recently trained for this kind of an incident, correct? >> yeah, that's interesting.
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over the last seven days the chancellor of the school said that the faculty and staff had gone over training drills, what to do in scenarios like this three times. all of this, of course, in the wake of the shootings across the country especially in sandy hook and connecticut. >> with us is freshman amanda vasquez who was in english class when she heard shots ring out. how are you doing tonight? >> i'm feeling a lot better than i was earlier, of course. around family. >> i can't imagine. can you take us through what happened, what you saw, what you heard? >> i was waiting on my english class to start. it was about five minutes before it started. and all of a sudden i heard about six shots down the hallway. i started hearing people shouting and running, people just running.
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and i immediately tried to get under the desk, you know, tried to hide. of course, did what my instinct was telling me to do. there were people coming into our room seeking shelter. the gun or the altercation that was going on and a lady, she was training to be an emt or something like that. she took charge immediately. and was like, everybody, you need to get over here so that if the gunman looks in here, he doesn't see you. and turned off the lights, put the table by the door. and i called my mom as soon as i could just because, you never know. i didn't know if this was going to be the last time i was going to be able to speak with her. so i just wanted to make sure that she knew that i loved her just in case. i wanted to let others know in the school not to come in there. i only had wifi once i moved to the other side of the room to hide, i only had wifi. so i immediately went to twitter because i know that's where the majority of people who follow me the most are.
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and i was trying to advise them not to come into the academic building because it's not safe. i didn't want anyone else injured. and so -- >> did you hear any kind of altercation or words before the shots began? >> no. i just heard the shots being fired. >> and you say you think it was about six shots? >> yes. yes, sir. >> how long did all this go on for? can you tell? >> the shooting or how long we were stuck in the room or? >> well, the shooting, because i kind of understand they kind of moved location. there was an early report that it either moved from the academic building to the library or vice versa. >> it seemed to happen really quickly. i can't give you a number. i just -- my mind was going so fast in those moments. >> how long did you stay in the classroom? >> about 30 minutes. we were just waiting there silently, you know, calling
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loved ones, just in case, you know, it was our last time, just trying to let them know. >> then finally what made you leave the classroom? did police show up? >> police came in the room, and they said that we need to put our hands behind our head and evacuate immediately, and so we did. we ran out of there. you know, we didn't want to be in there anymore. we knew that there was still a gunman on the loose. so we just wanted to be out of there and in safety. >> i mean, this is the kind of thing obviously you've seen on television, you've seen on the news, but to actually go through it, to experience it, what do you -- what do you want people to know? what do you -- do you take away anything from this? do you learn anything from this? >> well, one thing that really stuck out to me is you just never know when it's going to be your time to go. so you always need to tell your family that you love them. don't hold any grudges.
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you never want to end your life and -- and to have those -- tell your family every day and every loved one that you have husband, wife, girlfriend or boyfriend, tell them that you love them. >> amanda, i wish you the best. i'm so glad things turned out okay for you and your other classmates in that room. and thank you for talking to us. >> thank you. >> you take care. joining us is congresswoman sheila jackson lee. this happened while she was attending a forum. she'll leave to talk to joseph biden. and a co-author of the bill that would allow teachers to carry concealed weapons. it seems like this was some sort of personal dispute that spiraled out of control. there are details we don't know. it could have turned into a shooting incident that endangered other people only because one of the suspects had a gun on them.
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does anything that happened today make you rethink that it is a good idea to have young people carrying guns on a campus or anywhere? >> with all due respect, i don't think people in the mainstream media back east maybe understand texas. in texas we understand that you have to be 21 to have a chl on campus. senator brian birdwell who is the lead on this bill and 12 of us have already co-authored the bill with him. you have to understand, anderson, when things happen like this, it only re-emphasizes the issue that people must have a right to depend themselves. people who are responsible, people with chls, by the way, who have hardly ever been involved in a crime or a gun crime. i mean, less than 1% of chl holders, and we have half a million in the state, have ever been involved in a crime. these are responsible adults 21 or older who would be professors, maybe that maintenance workers, adult students, these are the people allowed to carry a weapon,
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anderson. here's the other point of this. thank goodness this wasn't an active shooter randomly shooting at people on the campus. it's terrible the situation that it was, but it wasn't an active shooter. but one of the reasons, anderson, that we want adult and students 21 and over to be able to carry their legally licensed firearm on campus is because a lot of crime happens on campus. the young lady who might be walking at night after a class to her car who has a chl but can't have it with her because it's not allowed by the university. you know, campuses have thousands of people on it, anderson, there are lots of crime sadly that goes on. i want my young daughter or i want my young son to be able to go to college if he has a chl and he's 21 or over and to be able to carry that weapon and defend himself in a situation like today, an active shooter, or just someone coming up to rob him. it's everyone's right to defend their life. it's in the constitution.
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we don't back up from this. this only reaffirms why we need to do this and why we're supporting the bill. >> your thoughts on that? >> first of all, anderson, thank you so much for having me and certainly senator patrick. my sympathy goes out to all of those who were impacted and who cannot empathize with amanda and i wish her well and i wish her future years of great success in what she's trying to do. >> to the point, though, the senator was saying. >> well, let me say this. my focus this evening is on the tragedy, but what i will say is that in knowing this campus and having spoken to those who are there, this tragedy could not have been helped by the present legislation. i know when the concealed weapons bill was passed some many years ago the wisdom of the legislature at that time was not to allow concealed weapons to be on campus and i believe they
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were right. take the situation today that if there were numbers of shooters, we know full well during the tragedy of my colleague, congresswoman giffords, that there was a potential of shooting the wrong person because someone did have a gun. now i'm not suggesting that they couldn't have been more helpful then, but just imagine gun-toting students who didn't know who it was, thought it might have been an active shooter and the shooting level would have heightened and more would have been injured. right now there are three persons as we understand who have been shot who were hospitalized. one who had a medical issue. the panic was extensive. but in talking to the chairman of the board of lone star, this college has been there for 40 years and this incident has never happened. the bill that has been introduced in the state legislature's time is not now. in fact we need less guns not more. when we had a hearing just the other week, there were police persons saying we are frightened of being outgunned. the records show there are more than 200 police or more on the scene in two minutes.
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the harris county sheriff's department was there in two minutes. the ems paramedics were there in two minutes. that school trains paramedics. i'd rather be training paramedics and first responders than arming students. i don't think amanda -- i cannot speak for her -- would have been happier if she had a gun in her hand and told you go find the perpetrator and try to take them down. >> senator, there's a lot of responsible, you know, young people, 21 and older on college campuses, but a lot of folks -- >> who defend our nation are very responsible. >> right, yes, i know. but a lot of folks on college campuses also do really stupid stuff even if they're 21 or 22. when i was in college i went to a pretty good school and i'm a relatively smart guy, i did a lot of stupid stuff that i probably regret. i'm not sure i would have wanted my roommates who also do stupid stuff to have access to handguns even in the number of suicides on campuses, doesn't the presence of weapons make suicide even more likely? >> first of all, i reject my good friend the congressman's comment of gun-toting students.
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you have to understand you go through background checks. you are proficient in shooting. you learn the laws. the time has proven, anderson, since the late '90s when this bill originally passed that chl holders in texas are very responsible citizens. in fact people who do not have a chl are 16 times more likely to commit a crime. >> anderson, if i may -- >> less than a fraction of a percent have ever been involved in a crime. these are responsible adults. not toting guns around. >> you mention our troops. more are dying from suicide this past year than in combat. >> you're a better journalist than to go down that rabbit trap. >> i'm asking a question. i'm not getting into an argument. i'm just stating a fact. >> no, you're asking me about an issue that has nothing to do with carrying guns on a college campus. >> suicide doesn't, the high number of suicides on college campuses has nothing to do with access to firearms? >> if that's the best you have to debate this issue, that's a sad statement. >> i'm not debating with you,
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sir. i'm asking a question. if you can't answer, that's fine. you can attack me all you want. >> let me disagree with my friend senator patrick. there have been a million homicides in america since 1968, the killing of martin luther king and robert f. kennedy. yes, texas has had a concealed weapons law, but even as they have had it, it is not a law that has a component to it that can say without doubt that every person who is now holding a concealed weapon is not suffering from a mental health issue, is not prone to high temper -- behavior. >> let me push back on your -- hold on, senator. i'm siding with you on this one -- i mean, i'm not taking sides, i'm just pushing back. why shouldn't that young woman we spoke to have the ability to have a weapon and not cower in a classroom under a desk hoping
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that the authorities show up? why shouldn't she have the ability to be armed and respond if that gunman does come into the classroom? >> i'm very happy to say that. because we're not talking about just that young woman. we're talking about individuals all over campuses throughout the state of texas having guns, some more prepared than others. and the fact that you have guns on campus that may be one by a concealed weapons permit holder that gun can get in the hands of others. >> just like any gun a criminal has, congresswoman. >> i believe lone star had the best response or a very full response both in terms of notification. i know there's some question about that. but they evacuated quickly. >> can i ask a question, congresswoman? >> let me finish. the sheriff's department was there, the ems was there. so my concern, anderson, is i believe in responsible gun ownership. i believe in the second amendment. >> thank you. >> i am from texas. i passed sensible gun legislation as a council member dealing with gun safety and
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securing your guns, but to have guns on campuses with young people, 21 or older when they're supposed to be there for an academic reason, i can tell you that that is -- trumped only by a match on gasoline. >> you should be able to defend your life. >> it is not appropriate. my sympathy to those who are now injured. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> i'm tweeting tonight. why would a newly re-elected congresswoman leave congress just days before she was supposed to get back to work serving the people who put her there? keeping them honest. we tried to ask her and does big money on the outside have something to do with it?
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progress does not compel us to settle centuries long debates about the role of government for all time, but it does require us to act in our time. >> millions of americans, of course, watched president obama lay out his vision for the country yesterday. keeping them honest, though, even as he spoke, another big washington power player was gearing up to advance its agenda. not lawmakers, judges or journalists. gearing up for battle to block
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bills or change them, usurp loopholes or widen them. you might like some of what they're doing, but chances are you won't be pleased about this. a congresswoman who just got re-elected but is leaving already taking what she learned in congress to get paid big dollars, leaving the people who elected her, basically high and dry. drew griffin is keeping them honest. >> reporter: she may be the perfect example of what washington critics call the revolving door syndrome. congresswoman, drew griffin with cnn. which could explain why all we got from congresswoman joann emerson was the slam-door treatment. the southeast missouri republican is quitting congress. not because she lost. in fact, she just won her last election to her tenth term by a landslide. she's quitting because she
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landed a job back in what you might call the real family business, the politics of influencing congress. follow the lineage. in the '70s, joann emerson married a lobbyist bill emerson. when he went on to become congressman from missouri, joann went on to become a lobbyist for the restaurant industry. when he died of cancer in 1996 she took his seat and served nine terms since then. while the combined emersons were spending 32 years in congress they were raiding two daughters, both of whom who are now registered lobbyists. now congresswoman emerson goes back to a trade association directing a team of lobbyists. >> it's the personification of the revolving door. >> reporter: kathy kiely with the sunlight foundation says it's a revolving door of lobbyists and politicians and staff members and big payoff jobs that erode americans' faith in a system that seems to be driven by special interest, access and money. >> what people do see is that is there's a network of individuals
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who don't necessarily have the public interests at heart. they have special interests at heart. when people have the impression that those special interests are dominating washington and the way things work here, it reduces people's faith in their government. and it probably should. >> reporter: technically speaking, joann emerson is not becoming a lobbyist, at least not yet. she has been named the new ceo of the national rural electric cooperative association. she will direct a group that has a staff of lobbyists that spent $3.5 million handing out campaign contributions in the last election and has spent many more millions lobbying congress. her predecessor was paid $1.6 million a year. that predecessor, a former congressman himself, and a registered lobbyist. glenn english.
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so this organization must value your participation in congress more than your ceo experience when you came in and that's the same thing with her. >> i think so. i think that's probably true. i think the membership recognizes out there that one of the very important functions of this organization, of course, is making sure that we're well represented within congress. >> reporter: joann emerson is one of five members of congress leaving office in 2013 to become part of the lobbying/influence community in d.c. one of them, north carolina's heath shuler was asked about that back in december. are you planning to become a lobbyist? >> no! >> reporter: despite that assertion he's taken a job as senior vice president of federal affairs for duke energy. technically, this freshman crop of brand new lobbyists won't be able to lobby congress officially for two years, which is in the bizarre world of loophole washington making them all the more valuable.
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>> they're still in the influence business, but they're not registered lobbyists, which, in fact, enhances their influence. >> reporter: in fact, official registered lobbyists are so concerned about all these unregistered influencers that the american league of lobbyists wants to impose new rules especially aimed at former members of congress who can still use the congressional gym, walk on to the house floor or use all their past contacts to, well, influence. so what does the congresswoman have to say about all this? that's what brings us back to the halls of the rayburn congressional office building. the congresswoman agreed to talk to us in washington monday at 5:00, then a few days later, she backed out. her aide telling us the congresswoman just didn't think it was such a good idea. leaving us to have to come to washington to the halls of congress to play the bad guy staking out congresswoman joann emerson just to try to get a comment.
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and about 5:00 monday there she was emerging from an elevator. congresswoman? congresswoman emerson, it's drew griffin with cnn. can you give us five minutes, congresswoman, congresswoman emerson? and there she went into her soon to be vacated office. so we waited. can you tell us why you're leaving congress? can you tell us why after you won an election pretty well, why would you leave congress to take basically a lobbying job? congresswoman? back in missouri, the state now must hold a special election to fill the seat joann emerson is walking away from. that will cost taxpayers nearly $1 million. drew griffin joins me now. you reported she won by a landslide in november. why didn't she quit before the election when she knew she was leaving. >> one of the questions we wanted to ask her. how early did she know she'd be leaving? she filed paperwork with the house that really within nine days after the election she was already in talks to take over this million and a half dollar job.
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her chief of staff told us the job opportunity just popped up out of the blue. seems remarkable, especially when you also see that the national rural electric cooperative has been the congresswoman's biggest single campaign donor contributing $72,000 to her and her husband over the years and another 20 grand just to the congresswoman political action committee. >> so now they're going to actually pay her a lot more than that. in fact, a lot more than she would make if she stayed in congress, right? that's way more than her salary. >> it is a major pay boost, we think. we don't know the exact figures yet. but as a member of congress, she would be paid $174,000 a year. that's a lot, of course, for a lot of us. while we don't know exactly what she'll make as the head of this trade association, she's replacing a guy, a former congressman who made $1.6 million a year. that's nearly ten times the salary of a member of congress. >> wow, all right, drew, fascinating that she wouldn't talk to you.
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britain's prince harry finished a tour of duty in afghanistan. he acknowledges he had to kill enemy taliban fighters while on his deployment.
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he was serving thousands of miles away from the luxury of the palaces he calls home settles into more modest accommodations. back home he might have the reputation as a party prince, with his squadron he's known as captain wales. >> reporter: they call this vhr, very high readiness. it might look like down time, but the call to fly can come at any time. it happened once in the middle of an interview. >> it wasn't done in the wrong way, but it was just -- >> reporter: it wasn't just being able to do his job that made harry value his deployment to afghanistan so highly. it was the simplicity of his life out here. prince harry stayed in these simple containers when he was here in camp bastion. it's a far cry from the palaces he grew up in. and when he was working overnights, things were even more basic. >> this is my bed. i don't really make it when i'm
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done. joy, that's it, made. a paradine phone. this is as much privacy that we get. >> reporter: it was here that he found his sister-in-law was expecting a baby. >> very unfair they're forced to publicize it when they were, but that's just the media for you. i only hope that she gets the necessary protection to allow her as a mother-to-be to enjoy the privacy that that comes with. it's too much like that, that's the thing. >> reporter: harry's own privacy is clearly a concern for the prince as well. and he made little attempt to hide it. >> i never wanted you guys to be out here, but there was an agreement made to invite you out on a deal that you -- that the media didn't speculate before my deployment.
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that's the reason you guys are out here. >> reporter: back home the media glare will inevitably be brighter and the pressure back on to fi a partner. >> if you find the right person and everything feels right, then it takes time. especially for myself and my brother. you're never going to find someone who is going to jump into the position that it would hold. simple as that. >> reporter: perhaps harry's main interests himself will be getting back out to the front line as soon as he can. max foster, cnn, camp bastion, afghanistan. next the man dity ma tti te. i've discovered gold.
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welcome back. college football star manti te'o may prefer the glare of stadium lights but this week he'll step back into the media spotlight. for the first time he'll face the cameras and explain how he says he was the victim of an elaborate hoax that not only convinced him he was dating a woman that did not exist but left him devastated after being told she'd died. throughout this past college football season, he repeated the tragic tale of her death from leukemia coming on the same day his grandmother died. he waited until deadspin broke the story last week to clarify that he actually never met her. now we're learning the identity of the picture he believed was the girlfriend her real name is diane o'meara. she said a mutual acquaintance was behind the hoax. >> he has called and not only confessed but he's also
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apologized. but i don't think there's anything you can say to me that would fix this. >> also claims the allege hoaxer she calls ronnie also admitted to years of stalking her facebook profile and stealing photos. his uncle says he may speak out as well. bob costas, perhaps few can say they've had the front row seat he can say to so many of the sports highs and lows. you join me live. you've covered sports. >> nothing like this. >> have you ever seen anything like this? >> nothing that compares to this. some sort of window into what social media is doing to people's lives, much of it i'm sure positive, but the pitfalls here are so obvious. i cited this before and i apologize if people heard me earlier, but there was a famous new yorker cartoon three or four years ago. and a dog is sitting at a computer pecking away with its paws. and the dog looks over it
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shoulder and looks at its master, "on the internet, no one knows you're a dog." we ought to keep that in mind in some of these situations. you can understand what the motivation might be for this tuiasosopo guy. either he's got some perverse fascination with this woman and wants to humiliate her or perhaps he thinks he can put manti te'o in a position where he extorts money from him. but it's harder to figure out what manti te'o's motivation was especially once the thing began to play out. >> i didn't understand when if he wasn't in on it why he wouldn't have said as part of this story, the strangest thing about this, i never met her yet i'm in love with her. >> right. >> in talking to people who focus on social media and relationships online, i guess there still is a level of shame involved in some of these relationships. people don't want to admit they've never actually met the person. but there are inconsistencies in
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the story. >> in the case of some of the people who have those sorts of circumstances, logistically maybe they can't get together or they may have other impediments to social interaction. none of that would apply to a big man on campus at notre dame who by all accounts was surrounded by young women and had their attention so wasn't in need of reaching out in this way. and then he constructs a story or at least goes along with a story that includes him not being at her bedside when she's deathly ill. >> and it never even occurred to him to go visit his dying girlfriend. >> and not attending the funeral. at some point this begins to make so little sense that he had to figure he was smart enough to gain admission to notre dame even if they made an exception to some extent for a football player, you got to be awfully dumb not to think this isn't going to blow up in your face pretty soon.
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>> your gut feeling is that at some point he must have known something but was too deep in? >> that's a gut feeling with absolutely no inside information that he got too deep in but that he also saw that the story was playing out sympathetically. "sports illustrated" wrote a sympathetic profile of it. that his girlfriend had died on the same day as his grandmother had passed away. he plays on heroically through the season. they have an undefeated season. there's a mythology attached to notre dame that not many other entities in sports have, and people like these kinds of stories. and for a while it played well for him. >> you've seen people rise and fall and rise again in sports i'm wondering about your opinion of lance armstrong. should he have done the interview? did he do any good for himself? can he rehabilitate himself? >> i don't think he can fully rehabilitate himself because what distinguishes him from other users of performance enhancing drugs isn't just the doping and the cheating, most of those who did that either said nothing, allowed the suspicions to be there or denied it and moved on. nobody but lance armstrong vilified all of his accusers, almost all of whom turned out to
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be completely truthful, sued them and in some cases won, defamed them. i think it's that, that and the -- what he now acknowledges himself, the bullying and the coercion of people around him. it's that that people find even more distasteful than the doping because virtually everybody in cycling of any account was using performance enhancing drugs of some kind. >> i talked to author david coyle who had written a book, one of the things he said about tyler hamilton in getting tyler to talk about his own doping. someone who has lied for so long, can't tell the full truth. it comes out in drips and drabs. he felt this is what we were witnessing with lance armstrong. it wasn't smart to give such a big interview as the first because the truth -- he's not able to tell the full truth because he's still saying he's a bully but he wasn't saying he
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was directly pressuring anybody on his team. >> he had to be careful because he still has some liability legal and civil liability, and he was probably coached not to put too much out there that might be thrown back in his face in a court of law. he's already lost tens of millions of dollars in endorsements and potential earnings. and the other aspect of this is there are going to be some people who are skeptical even if he's largely telling the truth now. they're going to say he's only taking this course when every other avenue is closed off, when he has no plausible defense left. >> and it remains a question of whether or not he's going to testify to usada and whether that would lead to him being able to compete in triathlons. >> if he told them how he did it, how did we pull this whole scheme off, how did we conceal it for so long? how were we so effective? what were the methods? like a guy in organized crime turns state's evidence and not only incriminates himself but provides information to how these crimes take place. he has information that might be useful.
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>> unclear if he'll do that. thanks, appreciate it. michelle obama's favorite inaugural designer, jason wu. [ female announcer ] imagine skin so healthy, it never gets dry again. can your moisturizer do that? [ female announcer ] dermatologist recommended aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno.
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up close tonight, fashion lightning strikes twice for designer jason wu. michelle obama chose his design for her inaugural gown. she also did that four years ago. the first lady had several dresses to choose from. no one knew which one she would be wearing including the designers themselves until she came out on stage last night. jason wu joins me now live. congratulations. >> thank you.
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>> i heard four years ago you were like eating domino's pizza when she walks outside in your gown. you heard you ran around your apartment yelling and screaming. >> i was so emotional. i had really never watched an inauguration before and i didn't feel i was on the right channel. i remember i think jamie foxx was introducing the president and first lady. and then they came out. i think i know that dress. and it was mine. i was sort of awe-struck. >> so this time around, did you -- i mean, you must have known you were in the running. clearly you had communication as all the designers do. you don't actually try the dress on her. did you have a mannequin that is her shape? >> everyone asks me. no, i do have a michelle, a michelle mannequin in my studio. i consistently worked with her the last four years since she's been in office.
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and you know, it's been a really great relationship being able to call the first lady a client. i mean, that's very special, i think. >> did they call you a few minutes before she came out? did you have a little heads up? >> they're really bad about that. they never call me. you just have to find out when everyone else finds out. >> it seems so cruel that way. >> i was dying of anxiety walking around the studio. it was almost fashion week, so i'm still working. a little more festive. i got to distract myself in a lot of work. >> your career has changed a lot in the last four years. i assume you were not eating domino's pizza last night. >> no, i wasn't. i was just not eating. >> not to knock domino's pizza, because i'm a fan. how did four years ago, i mean, did that one event her wearing that dress at that event four years ago, did that significantly change things for you? >> i think a lot of people ask me, you know, what that -- did that put me on the map. certainly having the first lady wear your dress was such a historical moment. the one that the fashion committee was especially
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interested in is very significant. and you know, i always say to do something like that, you really have to sort of back it up with more hard work. >> of course. >> it's -- i always call it like to have great opportunity like that, getting a great role. and you sort of need your next winning role before you're done. and that's what i kept working on. i think we've been able to really take advantage of the publicity with that. >> that's the thing about fashion that's so stressful is that you're only as good as kind of your last collection. >> yeah. >> so you can't ride that, that she wore your dress four years ago, you can't ride that for very -- maybe the euphoria lasts for a couple of days, but you then have a business to run. and you've been incredibly successful. there are plenty of dresses that first ladies have worn to inaugurations that haven't been able to continue forward, that have gone under.
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>> well, i think i just always sort of reminded myself of what i am and what i'm here to do. and when all of that happened, i thought it was very easy for me to field all the requests and offers and such. i mean, to m i came to new york to be a fashion designer, so you know, i always say at the end of the day i'm a dress maker, i'm not a celebrity, i'm not a, you know, i'm not a personality. i have a personality, but i'm not a personality. i'm not a tv personality. and it's very rare i do tv. and i feel comfortable behind the scenes because that's where i have total control. i know exactly what i'm doing. i feel the most comfortable backstage at my shows. i feel the most comfortable at fittings in my studio. >> i talked to a lot of alleged fashion experts the last two days who were convinced it would be some other new young designer and a lot of them were -- somebody i talked to last night said they were gobsmacked that she picked somebody -- did you think it was going to be somebody else?
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>> i always thought that would be a possibility. i mean, certainly mrs. obama is known to wear a lot of young emerging talent and also a lot of established houses in america. she's been a great champion of american fashion design, which i think is in a better place than it's ever been before. american fashion, new york fashion week is one of the most important in the world today. and it's been looked at internationally. it wasn't always like this. >> when you're still a young talent, so you've still got a lot of years ahead of you. congratulations. >> thank you. >> i wish you continued success. great to talk to you. let's get a quick check on other stories we're following. isha is back. a day after president obama mentioned newtown, the national rifle association is weighing in. speaking at an awards event just moments ago, slamming president obama's proposals for curbing
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gun violence. >> barack obama is saying that the only principal way to make children safe is to make lawful citizens less safe. and violent criminals more safe. >> hillary clinton will be grilled on capitol hill tomorrow about the deadly attack on the u.s. compound in benghazi. she'll face both the house and center foreign relations committees. the attack on september 11th last year left four americans dead, including ambassador christopher teastevens. general john allen has been cleared of wrongdoing. allen faced allegations he wrote potentially inappropriate e-mails to the woman who claims she was being threatened by paula broadwell. and the dow jones industrial average and the s&p 500 hit new five year highs today on the heels of strong correspondent earnings reports.
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time for the ridiculist. it is a story that everyone it seems is talking about. scandal of scandals whether or not beyonce may have lip synced her performance of the national anthem at the inauguration. i respond with a big star-spangled so what? it is beyonce's world and we're just living in it. take another look at the performance in question.
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♪ and the rockets' red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪ ♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ >> so there's no doubt that is beyonce's voice, but a spokeswoman for the u.s. marine band says beyonce didn't sing it live and instead chose to lip sync to a recording she did the evening before. but another marine band spokesperson said no one in the marine band is, quote, in a position to assess whether or not beyonce sang live or not. i'm releasing a statement right now saying i just don't care. we got to see her beautiful face and her voice singing the national anthem. there is only one thing we should say today and that is thank you, beyonce. francis scott key himself would send her a fruit basket. the bottom line it was her voice. it is not like she pulled a milli vanilli.